On Sunday, June 14, the next episode of SHAKE IT OFF WITH MERT & LUCAS, LIVE! cuts through the noise with two hours that map the fault lines of modern life — how we behave, how we’re governed, and how we find meaning.
Hour 1 — The Etiquette Wars of Modern Life & Dissecting Modern Relationships
The hour opens with a sharp, funny, and unnervingly accurate tour of today’s “etiquette wars”: speakerphone offenders, tipping‑screen standoffs, airplane meltdowns, and the burnout‑driven boundary battles that make everyone swear they’re the polite one.
Then Dr. Laura Dabney joins the show to unpack the emotional push‑pull at the heart of modern relationships. Drawing from her bookI Need You … Now Go Away!, she explains why we crave closeness and demand distance simultaneously — and how that contradiction shapes nearly every connection we have.
Hour 2 —The Age Limit Debate & The Truth About Artistic Failure
The second hour breaks down the surging national debate over age limits in American politics — the polling, the medical research, and the public pressure that have pushed this once‑taboo topic into the mainstream. It’s a clear‑eyed look at why nearly four out of five Americans now say it’s time to rethink who’s old enough to lead, and what that shift could mean for the future of power.
The show closes with Ela Thier, author of How to Fail as an Artist, who reframes failure as a necessary, liberating part of creative work. She blends memoir and tough‑minded craft guidance to explain why careers stall, how artists self‑sabotage, and why honesty — not hype — is the only sustainable path.
About the Hosts
Lucas A. Ferrara — New York attorney, law professor, award‑winning film producer, and editorial strategist. Lucas brings legal precision and narrative muscle to every exchange, cutting through spin to reach substance.
Mert Roberts — A seasoned commentator whose wit and grounded analysis keep every conversation unpredictable, alive, and unmistakably human.
Tune In
LIVE on AM970 Radio or the AM970 mobile app
Sunday, June 14 | 7–9 PM Eastern
Replays stream everywhere: Apple, Amazon, iHeart, Spotify, and more.
More info: shakeitofflive.com
Some shows skim the surface.
This one digs where it matters.
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